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Daniel O. McClellan

If I recall, some JSTOR articles come with links in their footnotes to whatever articles are available on JSTOR (it may be another database, though). I's infinitely more helpful to just click on a link as opposed to looking up the journal on a database and then searching for the issue and so on.

JohnFH

Agreed. Personally, I think it would be a great example of synergy, and a great business plan, for a consortium of publishers to put everything they publish on a single platform chock full of hyperlinks.

Tim Bulkeley

They could call themselves Logos. Or maybe Libronix.

And that's a fly in the ointment, either the links are only internal to the organisation's own material (like Logos or like the JSTOR example) or they risk becomming broken links. Tending a link-garden is hard work (as Mark Goodacre) will tell you.

We need a Wayback machine to link to if the links are to remain stable... but e.g. the Wayback machine does not provide useful access to Ancient">http://ancienthebrewpoetry.typepad.com">Ancient Hebrew Poetry

JohnFH

Tim,

You know a lot more about these things than I do. This just in from Ehud Ben-Zvi, the editor of JHS:

"We are doing a bit of linking in the xml/hypertext version of the journal, which comes a bit more than one year after regular publication. I had anticipated to have vol. 9 (2009) ready for Atlanta, but it will take a bit longer. Vols. 1-8 are already there. We may consider add google books too, if they promise to keep stable addresses."

Chuck Jones

And don't forget that there is another session at SBL on the subject, where Ehud and I, and others will be presenting:

E-Publish or Perish?
11/21/2010
4:00 PM to 6:00 PM
Room: Hanover Hall G - Hyatt Regency

Theme: Sponsored by SBL Publications
Enthusiasm for electronic scholarship, like the technology that enables it, seems destined to grow exponentially into the foreseeable future. To help scholars and students navigate this dense and ever-shifting landscape, SBL Publications is sponsoring a special session on the challenges and opportunities presented by e-publishing. In this overview, panelists with hands-on electronic publishing experience discuss some of the open-access forms that e-publishing may take, including monograph series, online journals, blogs, and online resources, then answer questions from the audience. Possible future sessions may explore other issues related to e-scholarship, such as tenure/promotion review, rights and copyright, open access, and using e-scholarship in the classroom.

Charles Jones, Institute for the Study of the Ancient World, New York University, Presiding
Charles Jones, Institute for the Study of the Ancient World, New York University, Introduction (10 min)
Christian Brady, Pennsylvania State University, Panelist (15 min)
Ehud Ben Zvi, University of Alberta, Panelist (15 min)
Caroline Vander Stichele, Universiteit van Amsterdam, Panelist (15 min)
Ian Scott, Tyndale University College and Seminary (Ontario), Panelist (15 min)
Charles Jones, Institute for the Study of the Ancient World, New York University, Respondent (20 min)
Discussion (30 min)

JohnFH

Thanks, Chuck. for highlighting that session. Right on target.

Tim Bulkeley

Yes, the improvements Ehud has introduced at JHS are a great step forward, and as he indicates also, stable URLs are still (after now nearly two decades) a major problem to be overcome!

I wish I could be at the SBL session, despite all the fuss about hotel projector charges, I am delighted by the innovative approach SBL has often taken in these areas.

Danny Zacharias

The wayback machine is pretty cumbersome and not user-friendly. One thing a journal could use is WebCite (http://www.webcitation.org/) which archives a page for you, and you can link to that. The problem then becomes two-fold: what if WebCite disappears, and 2) when you archive a page you are making it "static" in that it is copying that page on that date. So changes to that page won't be shown.

I've mentioned before that for journal articles, the DOI is the way forward instead of the stable link. A PURL is good, a DOI is even better.

One of the other potential problems with hypertext online publishing alone is the lack of page numbers. When something doesn't have page numbers it is "less official" in most minds and definitely not easy to cite. JHS is good in that it publishes via PDF which has page numbers, but these don't carry through to the hypertext versions on their site, which immediately limits the value of the hypertext version. For scholars who want to use the article, they will end up reading the PDF version so they can cite properly. There needs to be a way to accurately display the page you are on.

What would be really great, IMO, is a standardized html/xml scheme for properly marking up journal hypertext to include all those links, scripture links, page numbers, metadata, etc. Then this standardized form could, potentially, be utilized by bible software developers so that a user of the big three could import an article into their own collection and the software would properly parse the html/xml so that your scripture links now mesh into your software, and the metadata is searchable, etc.

Chris

John, thanks for the post! (Although the link to me is broken ;-). Tim, Ehud and Chuck beat me to my comments. I will be remarking along these lines as well. Currently ejournals are just subtitutionary, simply replicating paper versions (not just in links but in accessibility, etc.) and that needs to change if things are to progress.

Gary Simmons

Anything worth publishing is worth publishing on parchment. Life for life, skin for skin.

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