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Peggy Leaphart

how would you say or print leopard keeper? If I wanted to put it on a sign like: Joseph was a leopard keeper. Thank you for your consideration Peggy

Truman 1

Truman 1,

In the book of Jonah 4:11 the passages reads, “and should I not be concerned about Nineveh, that great city, in which there are more than a hundred and twenty thousand persons who do not know their right hand from their left, and also many animals.” I think that is a great passage because God puts animals on the same level as humans. Nineveh is this city that Jonah does not want to visit because it is so sinful and God still make him go to save both the people and the animals from their sin. It is obvious that God cares because animals are included in his speech to Jonah as to why he must help them.

Pulp Fiction 4

Truman 1,
In the book of Jonah 4:11 the passages reads, “and should I not be concerned about Nineveh, that great city, in which there are more than a hundred and twenty thousand persons who do not know their right hand from their left, and also many animals.” I think that is a great passage because God puts animals on the same level as humans. Nineveh is this city that Jonah does not want to visit because it is so sinful and God still make him go to save both the people and the animals from their sin. It is obvious that God cares because animals are included in his speech to Jonah as to why he must help them.

Pulp Fiction 3

John,

I also agree with you about how it seems that man, beast, and plant all seem to be in one basket and should be respected equally. Everything was created for a reason and so it should all be treated equally. God put animals on the same level as humans so we should all respect animals like we respect each other. Everthing serves a purpose on this earth and nothing is greater than the other.

True Grit 2

I agree but I have a couple questions. There are If everything was created equally, would is it considered to be a sin to kill and eat an animal for meat? Also, in class it was stated that everything was intended on being vegetarian so how did carnivores start happening?

JohnFH

TG 2,

It seems that some animals, not just humans, preyed on others from the start.

Human proclivity for violence is connected with original sin in the Bible; that is, the fact of a brother taking the life of his brother, with the spilled blood of innocent Abel crying out to God, casts a shadow over all future generations. Not even a fresh start with the destruction of the Flood removes the blot.

Animals are held accountable for taking the life of human beings after the Flood in Gen 9:5. On the other hand, as a concession, humans are allowed to take the life of animals for nourishment; predators like lions are also permitted.

But the ideal according to Genesis 1, even if it was never realized, is an ecology free of violence. It is a bold, audacious vision, one that God predicts will one day come true, like a world without war. If we live without this hope, we also risk believing that the ends justify the means.

Breaker Morant 5

I really like the idea of having everything (animals, plants, humans) treated equally. This idea of equality can give you a sense of peace in the world. Nothing should be placed higher than another. In a perfect world, this would be the ideal situation. It makes sense to me that humans killing animals for food is acceptable but I found it interesting that predators like lions are welcome to kill other animals as well. To me this brought me to ask what the bible has to say about hunting for pure sport. Is it a sin to kill an animal without making use of its meat?

Nell 1

God created everything so therefore everything is created equal. I also agree that all things, including plants and animals, should be treated as equally as humans. God created everything with a specific idea and importance in mind for all things he created. Although plants and animals may be smaller and seem to have little significance to some people, without them, humans would find it very hard to survive. If everyone thought of everything as equal, I feel as though there would be more peace in the world. I agree with Breaker Morant 5 when they made the argument about killing animals for any other uses more than meat. Is that considered sinful? It’s not as though humans go around and kill each other just to place their head on a wall. If everyone thought of everything as equal, the world would have more respect for everything created, and that’s the way it should be.

Nell 3

I agree that God created all things so all things should be treated with love and respect, but I don’t think all things should be treated equally. Trying to compare a spider or a tree to a human just doesn’t make sense to me. I think all things should be treated with love and respect though because if not it is like you are disrespecting God because you are disrespecting his creations. I am not a hunter so I do not know the thrill that one gets from killing another creature, but I do believe it is ok to hunt (I fish) as long as is it not solely seen as a sport. Also I do believe in the use of animals for nourishment, as long as it is done the correct way.

Mission 2

I agree with Nell 3. I think all animals should be respected and I personally think trees are some of the coolest organisms on our planet, but I do not think they are on the same level as humans. Biologically, we MUST use other organisms in order to live and we all do everyday. There should, however, be a certain level of respect given to non-human-animals, and plants.
Also, I think that hunting is much much more respectful to the animals than factory farming. The animal is in its natural environment and dies quickly. That being said, the idea of hunting for pure sport, in my opinion, isn't as big of an issue as it is often presented as. I have hunted or been around hunters nearly my whole life and I have never met someone who just kills things and doesn't eat it.
There is much more to hunting than just killing an animal. It is about appreciating and interacting with nature (we spend lots of hours in the woods observing other aspects of nature more so than the actual killing), bonding with friends and family, patience, and precision. These are all things I think many people hold in high regard.

True Grit 2

Alright thanks John. That covers my questions. I find it very interesting.

The Truman Show 5

Like other people who have posted here, I have a lot of respect for animals. I see all living beings either animal or plant as having worth to the earth and the environment. I feel as if we should do everything in our power to keep them from dying out or suffering great deals of agony. But with that being said we need other animals/plants to live. But we can't overuse that, otherwise we'd damage a species. I agree with Mission 2, about hunting that is if we act as they did or even the Native Americans. When Natives killed an animal they prayed to their gods for it, for they believed it was a gift from them. If we had to hunt for our food, I think we'd have the same appreciation for them, but sadly we can just go to a grocery store to pick up all that we need.

shawshank1

God wants us to respect animals. It’s part of the food chain and a way of the human life to kill animals, god understand that we are a much smarter species and more advanced, but what he doesn’t like to see is unnecessary acts of cruelty. Why squash a spider in your house when you can simply release it outside? The Bible actually has much to say in regard to animal abuse. In the beginning, God created the earth and all the creatures on it to be under the authority of humanity. He entrusted these beautiful elements of His creation to our care (Genesis 1:26). Our sinful nature causes us to abuse the animal kingdom, sometimes without even realizing it. Yet, God expects the Christian, above all others, to be sensitive to all of His creation, knowing that exploiting or abusing it shows disrespect for God Himself. Abuse of anything that God made is not the character of God, but rather of the Evil One.

chariots of fire 3

I don’t really understand how we have taken a few huge steps back and don’t agree with that statement. I also don’t understand how plants can forgive, I know that plants are living things but don’t agree that they can forgive. So I don’t agree with man, beast and plant all being put into one “forgiving basket” and the unforgiving Jonah isolated away. I do believe that animals can knowingly forgive, but don’t understand how a plant would have the ability to forgive anything. I feel that Jonah’s inability to forgive isolates him because if you can not forgive then you probably won’t trust anybody either.

breaker morant 2

Agreeing with a previous comment, animals should be respected. That is why we have laws against animal abuse and what not. We can't prevent anything happening in the wild, that is something we leave to the hands of God. I agree when Nell 1 says," I agree that God created all things so all things should be treated with love and respect, but I don’t think all things should be treated equally." You can understand how a plant that one may have killed due to forgetting to water it, is not the same "crime" as neglecting an animal (pet per say). Sometimes the level of seriousness something is something that needs to be decided.

The Truman Show 4

Animals absolutely should be respected. I recently saw the movie, Water for Elephants, and my beliefs on this topic grew even more. For those unfamiliar, the movie is about the mistreatment of circus animals. It is just appalling to me when I hear about innocent, defenseless animals being tortured and hurt. I do agree that although we are equal in God's eyes, it's very difficult to see humans equal to an ant for example. It is true that we need to love and respect all of God's living creatures.

Pulp Fiction 4

Your comment in the last paragraph reminds me of an article I read once about how eating plants is not any more moral than eating animals. Plants are living things too. They have natural defenses against insects and other herbivores. If God has an equal amount of love for all of His creation, then everything should be allowed to eat whatever it can. Could we show a lot more respect in the way we kill animals? Absolutely. But I don’t think eating just plants is any better than a normal, balanced diet.

True Grit 1

I think every animals should get the same respect as human does. It's sad seeing animals died laying on the ground and getting eaten by flies. As to humans when they died they get to be in something that will keep them safe. Seeing animals being killed makes me sad because they don't know what is going on and suddenly they are dead. Just like people going out hunting for deer and squirrel. Deers they don't know when they are going to die and suddenly they feel something is hurting them when they notice they are dead. But I think God did create those animals to be killed and feed it to humans so that they can also survived.

TheTrumanShow1

Forgiveness is the key to being able to fully live in the present and focus on what's happening around you. If you can't forgive what others do, than how can you ever expect to be forgiven yourself? Besides, we are not the judges of this earth, only God can determine our fate. So why is it that we bother to hold grudges others mistakes instead of helping them to improve for next time. This is why God doesn't give in to what Jonah demands because He can see the bigger picture. Furthermore plants, animals and humans all play a huge part in this life, and without one of these groups, the world would struggle to exist. Unless perhaps you would like to argue that humans only destroy the planet, in which case I wouldn't necessarily disagree with you. However I believe as I stated before that only God can know the purpose of everything, and that for this reason He is very merciful whether it be to humans, animals or plants.

Shawshank Redemption3

The book of Jonah is a lesson in repenting, forgiveness and when put this way equality. I agree I feel that God is indeed throwing animals, plants and people all in the same basket. They are all his creations why should they be thought of as any less? More than once in the Bible the people of God are compared to little lambs and God is our Shepard. At the same time the people offer animal sacrifice to God and in the Story of Abraham and Isaac God chooses to send an animal to Abraham so that Isaac’s life may be spared! This is a contradiction, but at the same time showing that we are all equal.

Chariots of Fire 2

Just like the other people that have commented, I agree that animals have feelings too. These animals are also living, breathing, and creations of God just like us. Many of us take for granted these animals. We treat them as if they have no value, and the only purpose for them is to fill us up. We diminish the value of these precious creatures and only think about ourselves. It seems that most of us should feel blessed by God to have some of these animals to eat. They are his creations which he is sacrificing for us. Like it says above in the blog, “God goes on to emphasize that his compassion extends to man and beast alike”. If God feels that man and beast are alike, then we should respect that. He is generous enough to let us live off these animals; the least we could do is appreciate it and treat the animals with respect and not abuse them.

Praying with Lior 3

I like the way God includes animals in his mercy on the city of Nineveh because he is showing Jonah that even the animals who cannot speak for themselves, deserve mercy. Because of his jealousy, Jonah wants God to put him out of his misery, but instead God makes an example of him by asking him why he believes he is above delivering God’s forgiveness. As you stated, “Unforgiveness, even when it has justice on its side, crushes the one who bears it.” It is hard for us to see sometimes that good can come from forgiving those that we don’t believe deserve it. Having hatred and resentment takes so much energy and leaves one with a heavy heart. God is trying to show Jonah that by giving forgiveness to those we think are least deserving, it is actually a freeing experience.

Chariots of Fire 4

This is very sweet and shows yet again of how merciful God is. The fact that he includes animals makes me wonder of how he feels of us hunting animals for sport. I grew up in a family where hunting was the normal thing to do. Every winter we would spend months hunting however I was never able to commit the deed of killing a deer. I always felt that it seemed wrong and from I recently learned I think I may have been right.

The Truman Show 5

When I think about this essay I think about the classic Disney move The Lion King. In this children's movie they speak of the circle of life. This circle in the sense that they are speaking of is living and dying. What I instantly connected it to was a circle of respect between the species of humans and every thing else. The reason that I put humans in their own category is because we are the “x” factor. The humans are changing the world in so many ways and so fast.
These thoughts may sound a little more scientific rather than biblical, but they are events that are certainly occurring. As a human race we are destroying habitats, for many species of animals. We are all caught up in our own sense of self improvement that we don’t care who we end up hurting in the end. It is the animals that are paying the price for our advancements. We are not respecting the wild at all in this day and age. Yes their are groups that try to put abused dogs and cat into better homes, but this is not the big picture. Due to our ignorance and self motivation we will be the last animals left in this world.

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