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Ranger

Schweitzer was a mythicist, and Darwin denied evolution on his deathbed. *sigh*

The mythicist does something else similar to YEC in that they think the "burden of proof" is on historicists. By arguing from this position you CSM use the lack of scholarly interaction with your fringe view and say, "They don't interact with us because they have no case against our claims" or "no scholar has yet to refute Doherty." such a tactic builds confidence for your view in the face of unanimous academic rejection.

James is being extreme, but you could cut and paste YEC language into some of the comments that respond to him. For instance Tom Verenna was offended that James called it pseudo-scholarship, and responded with something like, "Please don't call it pseudoscholarship when some of our supporters have real credentials." Cut and paste from YEC. Kurt Wise got his Ph.D. under Stephen Jay Gould and just about everyone working for Answers in Genesis has a Ph.D. in the natural sciences.

The real issue is that all of those scholars have a view of Genesis that frames their science. And almost every mythicist has a membership in the local Skeptic society, Atheist club or was a member of the Rational Response Squad. They may have a good argument occasionally (and YEC might as well), but the case will have to be very strong in order for anyone to listen because their ideological bias is rather clear. In this age of the continuing Third Quest, arguments by Doherty that seem ignorant of Second Temple Judaism (as many have pointed out), just won't cut it. In the pre-WWII days of the anti-Jewish historical Jesus it stood a better chance, but not in academia today. Thus, the cries of "nobody takes us seriously will continue."

I've heard that Maurice Casey uses his expertise to deal with them in his new book. It should be insightful.

Ranger

CSM = can. I'm on my iPod.

Steven Carr

Maurice Casey can tell us the Aramaic of what Jesus said before he was betrayed.

Was he there?

And how did the historical Jesus know he was going to be betrayed?

And how did the historical Jesus know that the movement would continue after his surprise betrayal, and that the movement would need a ritual meal where they could obtain access to his flesh and blood?

JohnFH

James Crossley wrote not too long ago that reconstructions of the kind Maurice Casey proposes are likely to receive a warmer welcome than just a decade or two ago. One more sign of the fact that in the Third Quest environment, it is easier than it once was to sketch a historically probable Jesus.

"Was he there?" questions misconstrue what the quest is about. Is that all the mythicists got?

Given the probability that Jesus existed and that he was betrayed, whether he figured out ahead of time that he would be betrayed is a legitimate question. It would be fun to discuss it based on the evidence in hand, but to do so implicitly calls into the question the entire mythicist project.

Anders Branderud

Quote: “truth he did not hesitate to identify with that embodied and proclaimed by the historical Jesus.”
A logical analysis (found in www.netzarim.co.il (Netzarim.co.il is the website of the only legitimate Netzarim-group)) of all extant source documents and archeology proves that the historical Ribi Yehosuha ha-Mashiakh (the Messiah) from Nazareth and his talmidim (apprentice-students), called the Netzarim, taught and lived Torah all of their lives; and that Netzarim and Christianity were always antithetical.

The “historical Jesus” is an oxymoron.
The historical person was named Ribi Yehoshua.

James Pate

Of course he wasn't. He believed in an apocalyptic Jesus.

Hector Avalos

Just for the record, I would not regard myself as a "Jesus mythicist." I regard
myself as an agnostic on the question of the historical Jesus. A plausible
case for the mythic Jesus can be made, but I am not yet convinced that
it is any better than the claim that there was a real person named Jesus, even if not much can be known about him.

Of course, I do believe that many mythic elements are imposed upon Jesus in the NT, but that is not the same as saying that Jesus is a completely mythological character such as Zeus.

Neil Godfrey

Neil Godfrey has never at any time even hinted that Albert Schweitzer is a mythicist sympathizer. Neil Godfrey assumes most people know enough about Albert Schweitzer not to even think he would think that. Neil has made the contexts of his citations of Schweitzer clear at all times.

Mythicist arguments nowhere that I know have ever pretended that all they need to do is knock down "historicist" arguments.

If you would like to know exactly what Neil Godfrey's issue with the "Creationist" slur is, he has made it clear at http://vridar.wordpress.com/2010/02/14/creationist-slurs-have-no-place-in-an-honest-mythicist-historicist-debate/

How about a little bit of intellectual honesty in the way we define and use the term "creationism". It would also do you credit not to misrepresent what Neil Godfrey says about Albert Schweitzer.

Michael Shermer is able to quite comfortably pull apart Creationist arguments in a civil, courteous and professional manner and tone. I have demonstrated it is quite possible to pull apart in an informative and clear way something as "fringe" as Atlantis theories.

It is perhaps sadly instructive that quite a number of biblical scholars appear to find such processes beyond them when confronted with mythicist arguments,and they feel a need to resort to ridicule and misrepresentation and insult.

Albert Schweitzer -- and this is a key point of my references to him -- would not be impressed.

You are public intellectuals and I would consider that you have a responsibility to your publics to give them more than examples of prejudice and uncivil responses when faced with a radical difference of view.

Neil Godfrey

Neil Godfrey

I have updated my blog post with reference to the remarks made here. My inclusion of Schweitzer was designed to impact readers BECAUSE he was opposed to the mythicist arguments. If he were a mythicist sympathizer from way back I would not have bothered to reference him at all.


JohnFH

Hector,

I'm familiar with your biblical scholarship and I respect the contributions you have made (The End of Biblical Studies, not so much, but even though I deeply disagree with what you say in that book, for that very reason it is an excellent book for evangelicals like me to engage with).

I've always thought you might do a service in the discussion by staking out a position that is not nihilist or minimalist on historical matters, and for that very reason, a more cogent critic of the biblical tradition in terms of its ideological content.

Someone like Thomas L. Thompson doesn't seem to realize that by taking as nihilist or minimalist a position as the data allows, rather than taking a more constructive position of the kind historians of antiquity usually take vis-a-vis the period(s) they study, he consigns his research, however well-done, to the round file of those of us who have gone over the data with great care and think the balance of probability lies in the direction of being able to say the kind of things about Jesus and his teaching that Schweitzer (for example) did.

Why not continue to allow for the possibility that the mythicists or the minimalists are right, but reconstruct a full-orbed first century Jesus and early Christianity in continuity and discontinuity with that of the second century and beyond? Surely the data in hand are compatible with this possibility as well.

JohnFH

Neil,

Thanks for adding the clarificatory note to your post. My purpose here was not to subject either YECers or mythicists to verbal abuse. It was to help people get a handle on Albert Schweitzer's take on the questions at hand.

After all, it is probable that people will still be discussing Schweitzer's views long after the views of Avalos, Thompson, Doherty, Hobbins, and Godfrey have been forgotten.

A biologist will have no trouble entertaining the possibility that YECism is right. For that to be the case, she will point out a long list of assumptions she and her colleagues routinely make that would have to be wrongheaded for YECism to be true.

A student of Jesus and early Christianity will likewise have no trouble entertaining the possibility that mythicism is right. For that to be the case, she will point out a long list of assumptions she and her colleagues routinely make that would have to be wrongheaded for mythicism to be true.

An interesting thread of scholarship for mythicists to ponder is that of Jacob Neusner and his school. These folks are minimalists to the point of being nihilists with respect to what we can say about the historical Yohanan ben Zakkai or Aqiva.

But when Neusner discusses Jesus, he is not a minimalist or nihilist. In fact, he uses the gospels, Acts, Paul, the Didache, etc., as do many historians of Second Temple Judaism, as a crucial source for the reconstruction of the same in the first cent CE. That's because these sources provide or seem to provide a wealth of historical detail of a trustworthiness that cannot be assumed for biographical traditions about the sages found in the Talmud.

I point that out with the caveat that I think we can say a lot more about the sages, biographically and historically speaking, than Neusner and his school are on record as suggesting.

Eliyahu

A matter can be verified by credible living witnesses. History past the presence of credible witnesses is only as good as forensic science. Scientific history requires hard objective evidence, like manuscripts and bones and things that can be seen and examined. And even then you can only make a best judgment. I hate to be so trite but if you use forensic (CSI without the hype, although it would sell big time), type methods it is going to cost you a lot of time and money. If you don't use forensic type methods then you will invariably settle in the subjective muck that most of the world accepts. Extant historical documents and recent archeology point to a man called Yehoshua ben Yoseph of the Jewish people. A human excelling in logic and wisdom and purity, but only human. All of this is available to view and scrutinize. His teachings were thoroughly Torah. Jewish people should understand him in the light of Torah but they sadly, except for a few, parrot the teachings of Xtianity and make the man into a myth, into a deity.
The distinction must be made between the man that lived and died and the myth that grew to become Xtianity. This is Jzeus. This name is historical but it never existed in time-space as a person. It is an idea and no more. It has no reality except for in the minds of those that have willed it to exist to them. That is why it's claimants can "believe" it exists without objective proof. After all, everyone with a mind has freedom to choose what they think about. But thinking something into existence is yet to be accomplished in time-space, at least by a human. This Jzeus idea is in exact opposition to the Torah that Ribi Yehoshua ben Yoseph ben Dawid, Ha Mashiach taught. If you want to test the evidence that exists with references it is found at http://www.netzarim.co.il”>Netzarim , but it is still going to be a lot of work.

JohnFH

On the contrary, Eliyahu, you overstate the case for the historical Jesus big time. For example, "recent archeology" does not "point to a man called Yehoshua ben Yoseph of the Jewish people."

At the most, recent archeology is compatible with the assumption - a very good one, given the amount of extant data it economically explains - that a man referred to as "Jesus" by his first-century Greek-speaking followers, Jewish and non-Jewish - said and did a variety of things of which the writings of the New Testament bear witness.

The view that the historical Jesus and the Christ of faith are exact opposites, like so many statements, is both true and untrue. I admire your enthusiasm for the particular religious point of view you have adopted, but historical research does not traffic in verities of the kind you espouse. That said, I'm willing to talk about either. For example, your website's claim that Jesus was a Pharisee requires very careful qualification. To start things off, there is zero evidence that Jesus, no matter how much common ground he shared with the Pharisees, self-identified as a Pharisee.

Neil Godfrey

I find it curious that the notion that "being a minimalist to the point of being a nihilist" about X is a matter of concern. If I opt for a particular rigour in determining what will be my boundaries on the grounds that I can not honestly justify anything else, and I find that that "rigour" leads to the death of a particular cherished concept, I do not see nihilism as the inevitable conclusion of it all. If X dies, then I am led to a new set of wonders as I explore what and why we all thought X to be there at all -- and learn to appreciate all the more about who and what we are.

I would rather live with the pain of honesty than with the comfort of illusions. I still recall vividly a dream I had as a child. I was dreaming I was dreaming and determined never to wake up and lose that dream. But I lost that illusory battle, of course. And what I have had to face in another world since that dream has not always been nice, and much has failed to endure. But I would not change it for any illusion. Does not death suggest nihilism? Do not christians believe in a resurrection after death?

Neil Godfrey

Back to Schweitzer, for the sake of some sort of completion I have posted a more detailed set of his comments on the historicist-mythicist debate here: http://vridar.wordpress.com/2010/02/15/schweitzers-comments-on-the-historical-mythical-jesus-debate/

As for Jacob Neusner, I have read a reasonable amount of his work, including his discussions of Yohanan ben Zakkai, and have long intended to discuss some of this on my blog. I keep coming back to the core discussion of the nature of the evidence, particularly unprovenanced literary evidence, however. But will discuss that when time permits, too.

JohnFH

Neil,

Being a minimalist to the point of being a nihilist with respect to the historical Jesus, James, Paul, Johanan ben Zakkai, Akiva, etc., at one level is not a matter of concern at all. Whatever gets you through the day, as they say.

It's a little bit harder however to be taken seriously as a historical researcher if one is a mythicist in relation to any of the above figures.

No one should deny the obvious, that the historical data in hand allows one to draw tentative conclusions only. But the idea that any of these figures were invented out of thin air is nonetheless preposterous.

Note that historical researchers do not argue like lawyers whose job it is to establish reasonable doubt. It's always possible to argue like Johnny Cochran - he did so to great effect and earned top dollar for it - who made the trial against O. J. Simpson into a trial of LAPD. Great fun. But the nature of the evidence in hand for most figures referred to in ancient sources make such an approach completely unhelpful.

The bad taste that lawyerly mythicists leave in the mouth of serious historical researchers in the field is entirely justified.

From a faith perspective, however, the fact that mythicism is and always will be a possible stance is a tonic to true faith. That is Schweitzer's point. The fact deprives the believer of a phantom crutch, the notion that historical evidence is a sufficient foundation for religious belief. That, I think, is never the case.

Faith in the first place is not a response to historical evidence. It is a work of the Holy Spirit, a gift of God. Classically, it is understood to be both fides quae and fides qua, in which what one believes about a person depends very much on trust and belief in that person, and the interpersonal knowledge that flows from that.

Call it "mystical" knowledge or something else, it doesn't matter much. It is knowledge of this kind that powers the faith of Jewish and Christian believers alike.

Neusner is a great read on the question of what kind of history the sources give us. I've posted on the topic more than once on this blog. For a full picture, it's important to trace Neusner's entire trajectory on the subject matter. He changed his mind rather much. Furthermore, many of his colleagues in the field of the history of Judaism are more optimistic than he is about what one can say with a reasonable degree of plausibility about the sages, biographically speaking. And with good cause.

Eliyahu

You are quite incorrect about the archeological evidence. There is very good archeological evidence for a human Jewish man named ישוע בר יהוסף at least that is what was found on his ossurary in Talpiot, Yrushalayim (Jerusalem), note that the ossuary did not say Jzeus. The evidence is so good that the IAA, Israel Antiquities Authority, has basically lost it's case claiming the "James Ossuary" was a fake. Allow me to put this together for you. If the James ossuary is authentic then the Talpiot tomb being the tomb of Ribi Yehoshua is a slam dunk. The completely scientific atomic absorption profile of the scrapings of the James ossuary are a fingerprint match of the scrapings of another ossuary of the Talpiot tomb. My training and degree happen to be in this type of analysis. This scientific evidence is irrefutable.
Historical Yehoshua is not historical Jzeus. And I didn't write that Jzeus was a Pharisee. I wrote the opposite. On the contrary, Ribi Yehoshua did identify with some Pharisees. Rabban Gamliel was a Perushi that he identified with as was also Hillel. The clarification of Ribi Yehoshua as a Pharisee, Perushi, would only be in what type. The extant sources name at least seven kinds if I recall correctly.

JohnFH

Eliyahu,

I'm sure the Talpiot ossuary is a slam dunk. Just as was the CIA's case that Saddam had WMD. "It's a slam dunk, Mr. President," said George Tenet.

Perhaps the writing on the ossuary, not just the ossuary itself, is authentic. Even if it were, what that would imply about "the Torah that Ribi Yehoshua ben Yoseph ben Dawid, Ha Mashiach" taught is a matter of speculation.

You guys are mythicists yourselves. One of seven kinds out there, if I remember correctly. That is, you take the Jesus of the gospels to be a myth.

Excuse the sarcasm, but I don't think you realize that your way of reasoning and the way a historian reasons have little in common.

Steven Carr

'Given the probability that Jesus existed and that he was betrayed, whether he figured out ahead of time that he would be betrayed is a legitimate question.....'

SO there is no evidence that he was betrayed...

And this Jesus knew he was going to be betrayed, because the authorities had to pay people to find out what Jesus looked out....

And then Jesus knew his movement would continue after his death....

How on earth could any of the many Historical Jesus's that have been proposed have possibly known he was going to be portrayed and that the movement would survive his death - to do what exactly?


And then Jesus knew that his movement would need a ritual meal whereby his body could be made accessible to cult members.

How exactly did Jesus know that his disciples would not be killed?


Gosh, historicists can read stories about the Lord telling cult members how to conjure up his body, and they do not think this reeks of mythicism....

They actually try to sell claims that this Jesus knew he was going to be betrayed, knew his disciples would not be killed and knew that they would need a meal to conjure up his body.

You may as well have Satanists telling us how Satan told Satanists how to conjure him up.


Steven Carr

Of course, that should be 'betrayed' not 'portayed'...

JohnFH

Steven,

I can't figure out for the life of me what you are doing when you read the gospels. Historians read them as if they were texts like any other. They try to make sense of them. Given more than one text that apparently describe the same events, it becomes a puzzle to work out.

Then you walk in, like some lawyer earning six figures defending a client like OJ, and point out that the chain of custody of the evidence is unknown or tainted, that there is reasonable doubt, and so on. And you are right. Big deal.

Historians work with the sources they have, not the one they wished they had. Virtually to a man and a woman, they read the gospels and surmise, without being able to prove it in a court of law, that this Jesus guy did a number of things, probably was betrayed, probably was crucified, and probably was reported to have risen from the dead and to have been seen by some of his disciples thereafter. Et cetera.

The approach of a lawyer intent on proving reasonable doubt is one thing. That of a historian intent on making sense of fragmentary data is another.

Steven Carr

'Historians read them as if they were texts like any other'

They do.

They treat them the way they would treat any anonymous, unsourced works of unknown provenance and unknown date.

Works full of people that no Christian in the first century ever put his name to a document stating he had heard of these people.

people like barabbas, judas, Thomas, nicodemus, lazarus, bartimaeus, mary magdalene, joseph of Arimathea, Simon of cyrene, joanna, salome, etc etc.

All are as well attested as the second gunman who shot JFK. not even christians of the first century saw or heard of them , outside the anonymous, unsourced, unprovenanced Novels.

but Christians claim their conspiracy theory is true, even if they can produce no more evidence for it then can the people who say a second gunman shot JFK.

JohnFH

Steven,

Now you are drawing closer to formulating a testable hypothesis. You postulate that the gospels are novels. There are many extant novels from the Hellenistic period. The Daniel/Susanna tradition, Tobit, Judith, Esther, Joseph and Aseneth. As a control, compare those to 1, 2, 3 and 4 Maccabees. Line those up with the gospels and Acts. Paul's letters can be used as a control.

It is very interesting exercise. Historians since Emil Schuerer and before have occupied themselves with it. So long as you treat the gospels in isolation from the rest of Jewish literature of the Hellenistic-Roman period, you are in no position to the say whether the gospels are, from the point of view of genre, closer to being historiography, historical fictions, or novels.

Until now, Jewish and Christian scholars of Jewish literature of the relevant period inclusive of the gospels and Acts have situated the latter, from the point of view of genre, closer to 1 Maccabees than to 3 Maccabees. Bona fide Hellenistic Jewish novels seem very different from the Synoptics and Acts along a great many coordinates.

That's fine if you think otherwise. But you have your work cut out for you. If you are going to make the case that 1st century Christianity as known from the New Testament is a giant fabrication, you must do the same for the Maccabbean period and 1-4 century rabbinic Judaism. Right? Myth upon myth upon myth.

Have fun. You have to undermine the foundations of historical research, not only, of the early Christianity, but of most other forms of Judaism of the Greco-Roman period.

Steven Carr

So no arguments for the idea that these unsourced, anonymous works are genuine histories.

Although it is conceded that they plagiarise each other without telling the reader of the deception.

And they are full of people who are unknown even in Christian history, and who vanish as soon as there is a public church in Acts 2, with the possibility of contact with people who might ask who these alleged people had been.

Just like the Angel Moroni and the Golden Plates vanish as soon as Joseph Smith went public....

Gosh, you get better evidence from the people who think a second gunman shot JFK.

Just shut all we mythicists up by producing some evidence that Judas existed.

Just think how historicists would adore being able to have some hard evidence like that and wipe out mythicism by means other than calling people names.

JohnFH

Steven,

I don't want to shut you up for one minute. On the contrary, I think you should test your hypothesis against the evidence. The gospels are not history of the kind you want, but neither are they novels as you think they are. Do the comparative analysis and see for yourself.

I am a student of antiquity. I am totally at home in a field of research that must try to make sense of mostly unsourced, anonymous works. Almost none of them are "genuine histories." The writings of the NT fit very well into the larger literary legacy of the ancient world. If you don't like it, you might as well lump it. You can take it up with God one day. "If I could have watched Jesus on reality TV, then I would have believed."

You find the particular challenges the sources we have pose to a historian unacceptable. You refrain from the hard sweaty work of assigning degrees of confidence in the historical veracity of the various NT reports. Furthermore, you seem to have an understanding of history that has never been "violated" by the insights of structural anthropology or the sociology of knowledge.

Precisely historiography of the modern world, with its embarassment of riches of sourced material and external documentation, is most aware that such abundance solves precisely nothing at the level of interpretation.

Christians, because they experience Christ in worship in more or less the same way that Paul implies he and his readers did, could get by with knowing only as much about the historical Jesus as Paul's letters, written only 20-30 years after the fact, allow us to know. But the gospels open a door onto a broader landscape. Certain conclusions by definition cannot be reached, but that will not stop believers and believers from questing for the historical Jesus until kingdom comes.

You can sit on the sidelines if you want, and heckle from the peanut gallery. But you can be sure that the show will go on, whether you have a part in it or not.

Art Smith

Whether or not Schweitzer's historical Jesus ever existed did Albert Scweitzer believe that Jesus was/ is the Son of God? To put it another way, did Schweitzer consider himself to be a Christian in the sense of believing Jesus to be the Son of God or did he simply follow him as an extraordinary example of a truly ethical human being? ags

JohnFH

That's a trickier question that one might think, Art.

Schweitzer thought of Jesus in the highest possible terms; as the one through whom God and the good are made known to us in superlative fashion; as the one through whom God continues to lay claim to our lives. But he thought of terms and concepts like Messiah, Son of Man, and Son of God as typical, necessary, but culturally contingent conceptualizations of who Jesus was. Which of course they are.

To be sure, one might choose to re-appropriate the ancient conceptualizations for our day. Most preaching and teaching takes this path. I can't think of passages in which S polemicizes against the usual method, but he takes, nonetheless, the less traveled road. He seeks to formulate in terms that are transparent to us the essence of who Jesus was and is apart from the "late Jewish" titles.

My thought: without wishing to polemicize against S's method, it is precisely the characterizations of who Jesus rooted in Jewish tradition that I find most helpful in interpreting who he is.

Art Smith

Thank you very kindly, JohnFH. Your comments and thought are very helpful to me, and indeed, are not different from my own on this matter. ags

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    Rev Sam tussles with God, and limps away
  • Emerging from Babel
    Stephen investigates the potential of narrative and rhetorical criticism as a tool for expounding scripture
  • Evangelical Textual Criticism
    A group blog on NT and OT text-critical matters
  • Evedyahu
    excellent comment by Cristian Rata, Lecturer in Old Testament of Torch Trinity Graduate School of Theology, Seoul, Korea
  • Exegetica Digita
    discussion of Logos high-end syntax and discourse tools – running searches, providing the downloads (search files) and talking about what can be done and why it might matter for exegesis, by Mike Heiser
  • Exegetisk Teologi
    careful exegetical comment by Stefan Green (in Swedish)
  • Exploring Our Matrix
    Insightful reflections by James McGrath, ass't. professor of religion, Butler University
  • Faith Matters
    Mark Alter's place
  • Ferrell's Travel Blog
    comments of biblical studies, archaeology, history, and photography by a tour guide of Bible lands and professor emeritus of the Biblical Studies department at Florida College, Temple Terrace (FL)
  • Fors Clavigera
    James K. A. Smith, professor of philosophy at Calvin College, thinks out loud.
  • Friar's Fires
    an insightful blog by a pastor with a background in journalism, one of three he pens
  • Gentle Wisdom
    A fearless take on issues roiling Christendom today, by Peter Kirk, a Bible translator
  • Giluy Milta B‘alma
    by Ezra Chwat and Avraham David of the Institute of Microfilmed Hebrew Manuscripts, Jewish National and Hebrew University Library, Jerusalem
  • He is Sufficient
    insightful comment on Bible translations, eschatology, and more, by Elshaddai Edwards
  • Higgaion
    by Chris Heard, Professor of Religion, Pepperdine University
  • Idle Musings of a Bookseller
    by James Spinti of Eisenbrauns
  • if i were a bell, i'd ring
    Tim Ricchiuiti’s place
  • Imaginary Grace
    Smooth, witty commentary by Angela Erisman (archive). Angela Erisman is a member of the theology faculty at Xavier University
  • James' Thoughts and Musings
    by James Pate, a doctoral student at HUC-JIR Cincinnati
  • Jewish Philosophy Place
    by Zachary (Zak) Braiterman, who teaches modern Jewish thought and philosophy in the Department of Religion at Syracuse University
  • kata ta biblia
    by Patrick George McCollough, M. Div. student, Fuller Theological Seminary, Pasadena CA
  • Ketuvim
    Learned reflection from the keyboard of Jim Getz
  • Kilbabo
    Ben Johnson’s insightful blog
  • Kruse Kronicle - contemplating the intersection of work, the global economy, and Christian mission
    top quality content brought to readers by Michael W. Kruse
  • Larry Hurtado's blog
    emeritus professor of New Testament Language, Literature & Theology, University of Edinburgh
  • Law, Prophets, and Writings
    thoughtful blogging by William R. (Rusty) Osborne, Assistant Professor of Biblical and Theological Studies as College of the Ozarks and managing editor for Journal for the Evangelical Study of the Old Testament
  • Lingamish
    delightful fare by David Ker, Bible translator, who also lingalilngas.
  • Looney Fundamentalist
    a scientist who loves off-putting labels
  • Menachem Mendel
    A feisty blog on rabbinic literature and other Judaica by Michael Pitkowsky, Rabbinics Curriculum Coordinator at the Academy for Jewish Religion and adjunct instructor at Jewish Theological Seminary (New York)
  • mu-pàd-da
    scholarly blog by C. Jay Crisostomo, grad student in ANE studies at ?
  • Narrative and Ontology
    Astoundingly thoughtful comment from Phil Sumpter, a Ph.D. student in Bible, resident in Bonn, Germany
  • New Epistles
    by Kevin Sam, M. Div. student at the Lutheran Theological Seminary, Saskatoon SK
  • NT Weblog
    Mark Goodacre's blog, professor of New Testament, Duke University
  • Observatório Bíblico
    wide-ranging blog by Airton José da Silva, Professor de Bíblia Hebraica/Antigo Testamento na Faculdade de Teologia do CEARP de Ribeirão Preto, Brasile (in Portuguese)
  • Observatório Bíblico
    Blog sobre estudos acadêmicos da Bíblia, para Airton José da Silva, Professor de Bíblia Hebraica / Antigo Testamento na Faculdade de Teologia do CEARP de Ribeirão Preto, SP.
  • Occasional Publications
    excellent blogging by Daniel Driver, Brevard Childs' scholar extraordinaire
  • old testament passion
    Great stuff from Anthony Loke, a Methodist pastor and Old Testament lecturer in the Seminari Theoloji, Malaysia
  • Old Testament Pseudepigrapha Blog
    A weblog created for a course on the Old Testament Pseudepigrapha at the University of St. Andrews, Scotland, by James Davila (archive)
  • On the Main Line
    Mississippi Fred MacDowell's musings on Hebraica and Judaica. With a name like that you can't go wrong.
  • p.ost an evangelical theology for the age to come
    seeking to retell the biblical story in the difficult transition from the centre to the margins following the collapse of Western Christendom, by Andrew Perriman, independent New Testament scholar, currently located in Dubai
  • PaleoJudaica
    by James Davila, professor of Early Jewish Studies at the University of St. Andrews, St Andrews, Scotland. Judaism and the Bible in the news; tidbits about ancient Judaism and its context
  • Pastoral Epistles
    by Rick Brannan and friends, a conceptually unique Bible blog
  • Pen and Parchment
    Michael Patton and company don't just think outside the box. They are tearing down its walls.
  • Pisteuomen
    by Michael Halcomb, pastor-scholar from the Bluegrass State
  • Pseudo-Polymath
    by Mark Olson, an Orthodox view on things
  • Purging my soul . . . one blog at a time
    great theoblog by Sam Nunnally
  • Qumranica
    weblog for a course on the Dead Sea Scrolls at the University of St. Andrews, Scotland, taught by James R. Davila (archive)
  • Ralph the Sacred River
    by Edward Cook, a superb Aramaist
  • Random Bloggings
    by Calvin Park, M. Div. student at Gordon-Conwell Theological Seminary, South Hamilton MA
  • Resident aliens
    reflections of one not at home in this world
  • Revelation is Real
    Strong-minded comment from Tony Siew, lecturer at Trinity Theological College, Singapore
  • Ricoblog
    by Rick Brannan, it's the baby pictures I like the most
  • Rightly Dividing the Word of Truth
    Nick Norelli's fabulous blog on Bible and theology
  • SansBlogue
    by Tim Bulkeley, lecturer in Old Testament, Carey Baptist College (New Zealand). His Hypertext Commentary on Amos is an interesting experiment
  • Ancient Near Eastern Languages
    texts and files to help people learn some ancient languages in self study, by Mike Heiser
  • Midrash, etc.
    A fine Hebrew-to-English blog on Midrash, by Carl Kinbar, Director of the New School for Jewish Studies and a facultm member at MJTI School of Jewish Studies.
  • Phil Lembo what I'm thinking
    a recovering lawyer, now in IT, with a passion for a faith worth living
  • Roses and Razorwire
    a top-notch Levantine archaeology blog, by Owen Chesnut, a doctoral student at Andrews University (MI)
  • Scripture & Theology
    a communal weblog dedicated to the intersection of biblical interpretation and the articulation of church doctrine, by Daniel Driver, Phil Sumpter, and others
  • Scripture Zealot
    by Jeff Contrast
  • Serving the Word
    incisive comment on the Hebrew Bible and related ancient matters, with special attention to problems of philology and linguistic anthropology, by Seth L. Sanders, Assistant Professor in the Religion Department of Trinity College, Hartford, CT
  • Singing in the Reign
    NT blog by Michael Barber (JP University) and Brad Pitre (Our Lady Holy Cross)
  • Stay Curious
    excellent comment on Hebrew Bible and Hebrew language topics, by Karyn Traphagen, graduate, Westminster Theological Seminary, Philadelphia PA (archive)
  • Sufficiency
    A personal take on the faith delivered to the saints, by Bob MacDonald, whose parallel blog on the Psalms in Hebrew is a colorful and innovative experiment
  • The Sundry Times
    Gary Zimmerli's place, with comment on Bible translations and church renewal
  • Sunestauromai: living the crucified life
    by a scholar-pastor based in the Grand Canyon National Park
  • ta biblia
    blog dedicated to the New Testament and the history of Christian origins, by Giovanni Bazzana
  • Targuman
    by Christian Brady, targum specialist extraordinaire, and dean of Schreyer Honors College, Penn State University
  • Targuman
    on biblical and rabbinic literature, Christian theology, gadgetry, photography, and the odd comic, by Christian Brady, associate professor of ancient Hebrew and Jewish literature and dean of the Schreyer Honors College at Penn State
  • The Biblia Hebraica Blog
    a blog about Hebrew Bible/Old Testament, the history of the Ancient Near East and the classical world, Syro-Palestinian archaeology, early Judaism, early Christianity, New Testament interpretation, English Bible translations, biblical theology, religion and culture, philosophy, science fiction, and anything else relevant to the study of the Bible, by Douglas Magnum, PhD candidate, University of the Free State, South Africa
  • The Forbidden Gospels Blog
    by April DeConick, Professor of Biblical Studies, Rice University
  • The Naked Bible
    by Mike Heiser, academic editor at Logos Bible Software
  • The Reformed Reader
    by Andrew Compton, Ph.D. student in the Department of Near Eastern Languages and Cultures (focus on Hebrew and Semitic Languages) at the University of California, Los Angeles (UCLA)
  • The Sacred Page
    a blog written by three Catholic Ph.D.s who are professors of Scripture and Theology: Michael Barber, Brant Pitre and John Bergsma
  • The Talmud Blog
    a group blog on Talmud News, Reviews, Culture, Currents, and Criticism
  • Theological German
    a site for reading and discussing theological German, by Mark Alter
  • theoutwardquest
    seeking spirituality as an outward, not an inward quest, by David Corder
  • This Lamp
    Incisive comment on Bible translations in the archives, by Rick Mansfield
  • Thoughts on Antiquity
    By Chris Weimer and friends, posts of interest on ancient Greek and Roman topics (archive). Chris is a graduate student at the City University of New York in Classics
  • Threads from Henry's Web
    Wide-ranging comment by Henry Neufeld, educator, publisher, and author
  • Tête-à-Tête-Tête
    smart commentary by "smijer," a Unitarian-Universalist
  • Undeception
    A great blog by Mike Douglas, a graduate student in biblical studies
  • What I Learned From Aristotle
    the Judaica posts are informative (archive)
  • Bouncing into Graceland
    a delightful blog on biblical and theological themes, by Esteban Vázquez (archive)
  • Weblog
    by Justin Anthony Knapp, a fearless Wikipedian (archive)
  • Writing in the Dust
    A collection of quotes by Wesley Hill, a doctoral student in New Testament studies at Durham University (UK), and a Christian who seeks the charism of chastity
  • גֵּר־וְתוֹשָׁב
    by David Miller, Associate Professor of New Testament and Early Judaism, Briercrest College & Seminary, Caronport, Saskatchewan, Canada
  • ואל-תמכר
    Buy truth and do not sell: wisdom, instruction, and understanding - a blog by Mitchell Powell, student of life at the intersection of Christ, Christianity, and Christendom
  • משלי אדם
    exploring wisdom literature, religion, and other academic pursuits, by Adam Couturier, M.A. in Old Testament/Hebrew Bible (graduate of Gordon-Conwell Theological Seminary)

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