Avery
Archer has responded
to my response
to his piece entitled The
Philosopher vs. the Biblical Fundamentalist. The conversation is worth
continuing because it illuminates issues of interpretation which come up again
and again.
For
example, it is typical in Judaism and in Christianity for a first text to be
appropriated in a second text. The first text may be embedded in the Tanakh/Old
Testament; the second, in a layer of rabbinic or Christian tradition. Later
texts abstract elements of earlier ones and utilize them in the construction of
a synthesis. Overall content and emphasis change, sometimes radically. Whoever
supposes that the content and emphases of the later text are, by definition, implicit
in the earlier, misunderstands the process. Whoever points out that content and
emphases are dissimilar, and opines that said fact proves the inauthentic
nature of the appropriation, also misunderstands the process. Later texts express
a metanarrative whose fixed points lie outside of the earlier texts they
appropriate. Later texts attempt to show that these fixed points are capable of
coordination with fixed points in earlier texts. Discerned one-to-one
correspondence (“this is that”) is not the same thing as identity.
To
be sure, it requires a historical frame of mind to make the distinction between
correspondence and identity. Interpreters ancient and modern make the
distinction when it serves their purposes, which is not often, and otherwise
elide it. But the interpreter interested in the sense a text had once upon a
time, in its original or in a subsequent historical context, must protect the
otherness of the text from premature conflation with an extraneous
metanarrative. The philosopher, I assume, is bound by an identical
hermeneutical deontology.
As
I stated in my previous reply, if a biblical literalist is someone who
"interprets the Bible at face value unless otherwise clearly
indicated" (Avery's definition), then I am one. Said definition is
interesting, though of course the epithet "literalist" is more often
applied to the one who construes another’s words in an over-literal or
simplistic manner. In my view, that is what Avery continues to do. This time
around, he constructs the following syllogism:
(A) The
members of the Holy Trinity are infallible
(B) Jesus
made a mistake, and therefore is not infallible
(C) Jesus
is not a member of the Holy Trinity
Archer
understands (A) to be a “simple” restatement of the Christian doctrine of
divine omniscience. I beg to differ. (A) is not simple but simplistic. It
requires qualification. The first Christians made a distinction between God the
Son who, in an act of self-emptying (kenosis), became like us “in everything
but sin” between birth and death on a cross; and that same person who, before birth
and after God raised him from the dead, fully participates in divine
omniscience. As Jesus is reported to have said, “No one knows about that day or
hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father” (Matthew
24:36).
This verse might even be understood to imply that the Son, irrespective of incarnation, does not fully participate in divine omniscience. A discussion of that would be interesting in its own right, but would take us far afield. An examination of early tradition, in particular, the diverse christologies of Justin Martyr, Irenaeus, Origen, and Clement of Alexandria, might prove helpful. My sense is that Archer is unaware of the riches of the formative period of christological thinking. Perhaps he has also failed to read a nuanced account of the christologies of the New Testament. That of Leonhard Goppelt entitled Theology of the New Testament: The Variety and Unity of the Apostolic Witness to Christ might be recommended. Instead of a three-step historical process (christologies of the New Testament; christologies of subsequent centuries; christology as defined in the creeds), he judges the New Testament against the standard of fully developed christology of three centuries later. In the process, he makes the Society for Creative Anachronism look conservative.
[Ed.: The folk Avery refers to as “biblical fundamentalists” interpret
a-historically all the time. Why can’t Avery? Archer is smarter than that.
I hold him to a higher standard.]
It’s
time to return to the subject matter at hand: unfulfilled prophecy. Jesus is
reported to have expected the prophecies of Daniel to be fulfilled in the
lifetime of his hearers. Said prophecies include the prediction of a definitive
victory of Israel over its enemies, as well as, according to Jesus, a judgment day in which
individuals will be judged for what they did or did not do. In point of fact,
said prophecies went unfulfilled, both then and since.
To
say so is not “curious,” as Archer has it, but a statement of the obvious. Matthew
24:36, Acts 1:6-7 (cited in my earlier post), and, at greater length, 2 Peter
3:1-9, handle the issue of postponed fulfillment in a variety of ways. Furthermore,
as I pointed out in my previous post, examples of unfulfilled prophecy in the
Bible abound. It is not possible for Jewish interpreters to say, “The issue is
unimportant in my tradition.” Nor is it possible for Christian interpreters to
say, “The issue relates to the Old Testament, not the New.”
In
Avery’s response to mine, he ups the ante, and I’m ready to comply. If a
biblical fundamentalist is someone who “refus[es] to pick and choose which
parts of the Bible [he/she] takes to be authoritative, in the manner that many
liberal Christians do” (Avery’s definition), then I am a biblical
fundamentalist. Give me that old-time religion. I am just as sick and tired of
the “à la carte” approach to scripture as is Avery.
I would
go one step further: if the formulation of a systematic theologian stands in
contradiction to the plain witness of scripture, I side with the latter. I
don’t care how respected said theologian is, or how many theological popes, ancient
or modern, attest to the correctness of the systematization. As far as I’m
concerned, the primacy of scripture still obtains.
Furthermore, I don’t think we should expect the various writings of the Old and New Testaments to give us a single harmonizable picture of “the end times” or any other point of doctrine. A variety of pictures, talking points, and whatnot are presented. Each conveys a truth which is lost if amalgamated with the others according to a heterological scheme.
Texts as various as Isa 2:2-5; Isa 65:17-66:24; Ezek 38-39;
the prophecies of Daniel; Matt 25:31-46; Luke 16:19-31; 1 Thes 4:13-5:3; and
Rev 19:11-22:7, for example, are not reducible to one another. Modern-day attempts
to discern instances in which they illuminate the structure of contemporary
events or anticipate the future follow interpretive procedures, it seems to me,
that are as old as the texts themselves. Bring it on. On the other hand, to the
extent that they rely on a harmonization of disparate elements arbitrarily
lifted from some texts and not others, not on the raw witness of the texts
themselves, said attempts are bound to mislead.
[Ed.: Hey, you promised that you would write with both
Jews and Christians in mind. Are not Jews little more than bemused bystanders
in this debate? Does the name Menahem Mendel Schneerson mean nothing to
you? Messianic eschatology is alive and well in Judaism today. It draws on
pre-existing traditions and interpretive procedures no less than contemporary
Christian eschatology.]
I
would suggest that a dose of humility is in order. In lieu of a unified theory
of everything, it is necessary, this side of the kingdom, to hold to plural,
partial, and, strictly speaking, irreconcilable construals of eschatology and
other points of theological doctrine. I am happy to cheer wannabe theological
Einsteins on, but I don’t expect them to achieve in theology what Einstein did
not in physics.
Too
often, it has been assumed that the epistemology of theology has little or
nothing in common with the epistemology of other sciences. Archer, in my view,
falls headlong into this trap. He wants to hold the Bible to standards of conceptual
rigor which, if applied to modern physics, with its “complementary” wave and
particle theories of matter and energy, its quarks, gluons, and what have you,
would reduce even the great lectures of Richard Feynman to a morass of
contradictions. The consistency which Archer looks for, and does not find, is
the hobgoblin of small minds.
There
are no special hermeneutics that apply to scripture alone, and there is no
special epistemology that applies to knowledge of God and no other kind of
knowledge. If one interprets the writings of the Bible singly, the methods of
interpretation to apply are the same as those that apply to individual writings
more generally. If one interprets the writings of the Bible as components of the
larger corpus of which they are now a part, the methods of interpretation to
apply are the same as those that apply in the case of corpora of writings such
as constitutions in conjunction with case law. Jaroslav Pelikan recently wrote
a book about the hermeneutical commonalities (Interpreting the Bible and the
Constitution [Yale University Press, 2004]).
I
could be wrong, but Archer comes across as someone who overdosed a while back
on apologists like Josh McDowell, and gave up on Christianity in the process.
If so, that is a tribute to Archer. The arrogance of apologists like McDowell is
appalling. The Bible is full of questions as well as answers. The questions are
just as canonical as the answers. McDowell, if memory serves, has only answers.
The people Archer should be reading are George Mavrodes, Keith Yandell, Alvin
Plantinga, and Nicholas Wolterstorff.
Archer
is right to apply the rules of logic to theories of all kinds. Those
of subatomic physics and those of the “end times” are equally game. He will
find grist for his mill in both cases. My thesis is this: if he explored the
logic of both religious and scientific theories, he would discover how alike
their logics are. It also matters little whether the theory of the end times Archer
puts under the microscope is that of a Hal Lindsey or that of an Al Gore. Both,
he would discover, throw caution to the wind and engage in wanton and thinly
substantiated speculation. Both, it is not difficult to predict, will be shown
to have barked up the wrong tree by subsequent facts.[1]
But
Archer should not apply the rules of symbolic logic to individual propositions
contained in the occasional writings of non-systematic thinkers. Or if he does
so, he needs to cut said thinkers a bit more slack than he seems inclined to do.
I’ve
said my peace for the moment. Before I hang up my skates, I wish to rectify
something I wrote in my previous post. I suggested there that the prophetic test
of Deut 18:20 is not very helpful. Archer suggests I impugn Deut 18:20 by so
declaring. He has a point. I don’t think the test is meant to be as broadly
applied as Archer wants, but I admit the test is useful in some circumstances. A
comment on Deut 18:20 by Jeffrey Tigay is apropos:
“The
Bible records two cases in which proceedings were initiated, possibly on the
basis of this law, against prophets accused of falsely attributing their
prophecies to God; in both cases they were exonerated. When Micaiah son of
Imlah prophesied that Ahab would fall in battle, Ahab had him taken into
custody, assuming – wrongly – that he would return from battle safely and
Micaiah’s claim to divine authority would be proven false (1 Kings 22:17-28).
Jeremiah was tried for false prophecy when he foretold the destruction of Jerusalem. His accusers
called for the death penalty, but he was exonerated on the grounds that he
truly spoke in the name of the Lord (Jer. 26).”[2]
More
to the point, appeal to the precedent of the prophet Micah made it dubious to
treat Jeremiah in a way Micah had not been treated (see my previous post).
Later on, we read that Jeremiah was imprisoned but not killed, a holding
action, perhaps, until it became clear whether or not his prophecy of the
destruction of Jerusalem came true. It did.
Jeremiah
and Jesus are among the prophets because a grave prediction both made came to
pass: the destruction of the center of the universe as they and their fellow
religionists understood it. That is what Jerusalem is for the faith of Israel:
the ordained intersection of the divine and human planes; the heiress of God’s
most wonderful promises. It was hardly a minor detail that they predicted her
destruction. Even if other predictions they made went unfulfilled, or were
fulfilled later in circumstances they did not foretell, or await fulfillment to
this day, their title to have spoken the truth in this instance cannot be
taken away.
The
amount of garbage that has been written about prophecy rivals the bulk of Mt. Everest.
I assume that Archer’s mind was poisoned by contact with it. Strong antidotes
to pulp apologetic include the following essays by Martin Buber: “Plato and Isaiah,”
and “False Prophets,” pp. 103-112 and 113-118, respectively, in idem, Israel
and the World: Essays in a Time of Crisis (2d ed.; New York: Schocken Books, 1963 [1948]).
[1] The books of both, it also not difficult to predict, will outsell by several orders of magnitude those written by others who patiently poke holes in their lines of argument. Should a reversal occur, I promise to switch from a pre-mil to an in-mil position.
[2] Jeffrey H. Tigay, Deuteronomy (The JPS Torah Commentary; Philadelphia: The Jewish Publication Society, 1996) 177.


Quite enjoyed this discussion between you both. A good example of respectful dialogue and I come away feeling I learned something.
Posted by: Shawn F. | May 29, 2007 at 06:19 AM
I just read that passage the other day...the one in Deuteronomy. What crossed my mind was that it seems to apply to a prophecy with an immediate time frame in which the prophet could be judged.
I always wondered how they viewed prophets who prophesied about things that didn't happen for hundreds of years, such as Isaiah. Was he regarded as a true prophet even though he was long dead before most of his prophecies came to pass?
Posted by: terri | February 06, 2008 at 06:57 PM
Good questions, Terri. It could be that the prophecies you are thinking of had a multiple fulfillment. That is, they were fulfilled in one way in the prophet's lifetime, and in another way later.
Here's an example. Micah, a 8th cent BCE contemporary of Isaiah, prophesied that Zion would be plowed as a field, and Jerusalem would become a heap of ruins (Micah 3:7). Given all the ways in which Jerusalem of Micah's day disregarded the will of God as Micah understood it, it made sense to predict as Micah did. But God is sovereign and mitigated the destruction, in line with Isaiah's predictions (cf. Isa 6 and 37, for example; destruction, yes, but Zion is saved in extremis). Still, the gist of the predictions of doom made by Micah came true in his lifetime, and that insured that they were collected and passed on to future generations.
Jeremiah, more than a century later, quotes Micah's prediction (even if it had not come true to the letter) in defense of his own similar prediction (Jer 26:18). Not long thereafter, Jeremiah and Micah's prediction came true, and in spades.
Prophecy and history relate to one another in far from completely predictable ways. The guidelines laid down in Deuteronomy were helpful, but only up to a point. The trouble was, God has a habit of mitigating punishment, which is the subtext behind the plot of the book of Jonah. Jonah knew about this divine habit and so he didn't want to go to Nineveh and preach repentance, for fear that God would relent and not deal out the punishment Nineveh the city richly deserved. Jonah was not wrong about that.
Another example. A prophecy like Micah 5:1 may well have been understood to have found fulfillment in, say, the reign of King Josiah, before being interpreted in reference to the hope for a Messiah King that grew and grew as time passed. Its application to Jesus is well-known and makes perfect sense within the larger narrative Christians discerned to be realized in the one who was born in Bethlehem.
Posted by: JohnFH | February 06, 2008 at 10:32 PM
Hi John,
This is still helpful, but I'm wondering what you make of the idea of Pauls' or Jesus' 'interim ethics'? Does the fact that they were expecting an imminent end affect the way we see, for instance, Paul's ambivalence towards marriage?
Posted by: Ben Smith | May 19, 2011 at 09:37 AM
I think so, though it is easy to reformulate things such that it is still appropriate for Christians to seek the gift of celibacy even if the novissima are not on the immediate horizon.
Posted by: JohnFH | May 19, 2011 at 11:14 AM
That's true. What about political matters, as in obeying the authorities on Romans 13?
Posted by: Ben Smith | May 19, 2011 at 12:05 PM
I wouldn't want to quote Romans 13 in isolation, without also quoting Revelation 13.
Both passages are shaped by a Maranantha vision of the world, if you will, a vision worth maintaining, without however pretending to know when and in what sense the prayer will be answered in our generation.
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